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Alfie Fox: working "for several years now you have been developing a method which you say could lead man away
Alfie Fox: working "for several years now you have been developing a method which you say could lead man away
from the threat of extinction and towards the realization of his true capabilities and purpose. How real is the threat of
from the threat of extinction and towards the realization of his true capabilities and purpose. How real is the threat of
extinction?"<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 155</ref>
extinction?"<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 155</ref>
 
New system "an entire system, totally coordinated, specifically categorized, and scientifically proved as being efficient, as
being capable of fulfilling the job that it is supposed to. Q: You're putting forward an idea of a unified system. But an entire system, totally coordinated, specifically categorized, and scientifically proved as being efficient, as being capable of fulfilling the job that it is supposed to."<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 165</ref>  


Argues for the need to develop a new logic and framework. "Dialectical thought has made the Industrial Revolution possible; there is nothing wrong with it. But now it is time to change it because the competition and the opposition which was necessary during that period-which was absolutely necessary then-is now, in the moment we are living, totally unnecessary. We can compete no more. The territory of our planet is too well known. All the experts in all the areas are saying exactly the same thing, that this planet is limited, and we must start thinking in terms of good administration of its limited resources. If radiation will not kill us, the bad allocation of resources will!"<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 156</ref>
Argues for the need to develop a new logic and framework. "Dialectical thought has made the Industrial Revolution possible; there is nothing wrong with it. But now it is time to change it because the competition and the opposition which was necessary during that period-which was absolutely necessary then-is now, in the moment we are living, totally unnecessary. We can compete no more. The territory of our planet is too well known. All the experts in all the areas are saying exactly the same thing, that this planet is limited, and we must start thinking in terms of good administration of its limited resources. If radiation will not kill us, the bad allocation of resources will!"<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 156</ref>
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Change does exist, but it exists in cycles that are preestablished.So you have at the same time something permanent, the cycle, and something which changes, and they are not contradictory. That would be what I call 'trialectics', or the 'logic of the unity'." <ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 157</ref>
Change does exist, but it exists in cycles that are preestablished.So you have at the same time something permanent, the cycle, and something which changes, and they are not contradictory. That would be what I call 'trialectics', or the 'logic of the unity'." <ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 157</ref>


Attempts to move beyond opposition, good evil, binary categorizations. Suggests trialectics. "Now, the proposition of trialectics is to establish not only the fact of change, that th~ change exists, but that change is not random, is not, let's say, a coincidence. Change is preestablished, as for example, the seasonal changes of the year are pre-established; there is summer, there is winter, etc. There are the seasons. The changes of the moon as it moves around the earth are pre-established. Every change is then pre-established. There is a moment for us to be infants, and then children, and then becoming adolescents is preestablished. We do not become adolescent when we are thirty years old. The moment is pre-established, the moment when
Attempts to move beyond opposition, good evil, binary categorizations. Suggests trialectics. "Now, the proposition of trialectics is to establish not only the fact of change, that the change exists, but that change is not random, is not, let's say, a coincidence. Change is preestablished, as for example, the seasonal changes of the year are pre-established; there is summer, there is winter, etc. There are the seasons. The changes of the moon as it moves around the earth are pre-established. Every change is then pre-established. There is a moment for us to be infants, and then children, and then becoming adolescents is preestablished. We do not become adolescent when we are thirty years old. The moment is pre-established, the moment when
it happens organically. It also happens organically that we come into maturity, which occurs when we are not going to
it happens organically. It also happens organically that we come into maturity, which occurs when we are not going to
grow any more, and that's that. It is a pre-established point, and the change is there. So we must understand, then, that we see two conditions in our world, I mean, in our external world: the condition that there is change, and the condition that there is a preestablished point where change will occur."<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 159</ref>
grow any more, and that's that. It is a pre-established point, and the change is there. So we must understand, then, that we see two conditions in our world, I mean, in our external world: the condition that there is change, and the condition that there is a preestablished point where change will occur."<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 159</ref>
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"I have been using the word 'challenge', the same word that Arnold Toynbee used for describing how cultures are produced. Cultures are produced because there is a challenge to accomplish. And I would say there couldn't be a clearer definition of what I call trialectics, in the sense of history changing."<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 160</ref>
"I have been using the word 'challenge', the same word that Arnold Toynbee used for describing how cultures are produced. Cultures are produced because there is a challenge to accomplish. And I would say there couldn't be a clearer definition of what I call trialectics, in the sense of history changing."<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 160</ref>


"Again, we have to recognize that all nature and all of what we know as evolution are again the product of separate
jumps to very concrete points. For example, the jumps between the animal genera from one form to another in the scale of evolution: no doubt there is a very well established scale already. It's very easy to see the jumps, as for example,
between birds and mammals, etc. There is a jump to something totally different but still there is a sequence"<ref>Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 166</ref>
Need for survival is what triggers the change and "jump."
   
   
"...true therapy consists in ridding ourselves of the illusion of individuality and dissolving our egocentrism in [[Cosmic Consciousness]].<ref>Keen, Sam. “Breaking the Tyranny of the Ego.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. p. 4</ref>
"...true therapy consists in ridding ourselves of the illusion of individuality and dissolving our egocentrism in [[Cosmic Consciousness]].<ref>Keen, Sam. “Breaking the Tyranny of the Ego.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. p. 4</ref>

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Óscar Ichazo ( July 24, 1931) is the Bolivian founder of the Arica School (est. 1968). The Arica School is a Connection Framework based on the Connection Experiences and philosophical knowledge of Ichazo.

Notes

Reports conversion from atheism to mysticism. Reports the use of ayahuasca to learn "many different things...the most important was that everything in the universe is really one thing. There was a perfect unity which had degrees of manifestation, with human beings at the top, no doubt."[1]

Alfie Fox: working "for several years now you have been developing a method which you say could lead man away from the threat of extinction and towards the realization of his true capabilities and purpose. How real is the threat of extinction?"[2]

New system "an entire system, totally coordinated, specifically categorized, and scientifically proved as being efficient, as being capable of fulfilling the job that it is supposed to. Q: You're putting forward an idea of a unified system. But an entire system, totally coordinated, specifically categorized, and scientifically proved as being efficient, as being capable of fulfilling the job that it is supposed to."[3]

Argues for the need to develop a new logic and framework. "Dialectical thought has made the Industrial Revolution possible; there is nothing wrong with it. But now it is time to change it because the competition and the opposition which was necessary during that period-which was absolutely necessary then-is now, in the moment we are living, totally unnecessary. We can compete no more. The territory of our planet is too well known. All the experts in all the areas are saying exactly the same thing, that this planet is limited, and we must start thinking in terms of good administration of its limited resources. If radiation will not kill us, the bad allocation of resources will!"[4]

"Dialectical thought, as we know very well, explains change. But change by itself is not an endless line of change. Change does exist, but it exists in cycles that are preestablished.So you have at the same time something permanent, the cycle, and something which changes, and they are not contradictory. That would be what I call 'trialectics', or the 'logic of the unity'." [5]

Attempts to move beyond opposition, good evil, binary categorizations. Suggests trialectics. "Now, the proposition of trialectics is to establish not only the fact of change, that the change exists, but that change is not random, is not, let's say, a coincidence. Change is preestablished, as for example, the seasonal changes of the year are pre-established; there is summer, there is winter, etc. There are the seasons. The changes of the moon as it moves around the earth are pre-established. Every change is then pre-established. There is a moment for us to be infants, and then children, and then becoming adolescents is preestablished. We do not become adolescent when we are thirty years old. The moment is pre-established, the moment when it happens organically. It also happens organically that we come into maturity, which occurs when we are not going to grow any more, and that's that. It is a pre-established point, and the change is there. So we must understand, then, that we see two conditions in our world, I mean, in our external world: the condition that there is change, and the condition that there is a preestablished point where change will occur."[6]

"I have been using the word 'challenge', the same word that Arnold Toynbee used for describing how cultures are produced. Cultures are produced because there is a challenge to accomplish. And I would say there couldn't be a clearer definition of what I call trialectics, in the sense of history changing."[7]

"Again, we have to recognize that all nature and all of what we know as evolution are again the product of separate jumps to very concrete points. For example, the jumps between the animal genera from one form to another in the scale of evolution: no doubt there is a very well established scale already. It's very easy to see the jumps, as for example, between birds and mammals, etc. There is a jump to something totally different but still there is a sequence"[8]

Need for survival is what triggers the change and "jump."

"...true therapy consists in ridding ourselves of the illusion of individuality and dissolving our egocentrism in Cosmic Consciousness.[9]

Interestingly, early on tagged Carlos Castenda as a fraud.[10]

Footnotes

  1. ↑ De Christopher, Dorothy. “I Am the Root of a New Tradition.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 129–54. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. p. 132.
  2. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 155
  3. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 165
  4. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 156
  5. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 157
  6. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 159
  7. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 160
  8. ↑ Fox, Alfie. “The Challenge to Change.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 156–81. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. 166
  9. ↑ Keen, Sam. “Breaking the Tyranny of the Ego.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. p. 4
  10. ↑ Fields, Rick. “A Scientific Approach.” In Interviews with Oscar Ichazo, 79–88. New York: Arica Institute Press, 1982. https://amzn.to/2MOwleU. p. 81.
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