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A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
* A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
* Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
* "According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the first place." <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>
* "At various points in the Appendix, Rolland makes the provocative suggestion that the psychoanalytic denigration of mystical experience stems from an abnormally extroverted tendency among psychoanalysts themselves."<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>
* Rolland accuses psychoanalysis of having unconscious 'prejudice' that prevents them from seen the truths of mystical experience.
* Defends the notion of mystical experience against charges that it is an infantile, regressive state.
* Accuses Freud's rejection of oceanic experiences and religion as shallow and normative
* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science
*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>


Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
== Mysticism ==
In a letter to Freud dated December 5, 1927, Rolland defines mysticism as "the basic experiential matrix that gave rise to scripture, dogma, religious institutions, and theologies."<ref>Parsons, William B. ''The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism.'' Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999. p. 9. <nowiki>https://amzn.to/2Tq1qsl</nowiki>.</ref> He states the [[Oceanic Feeling]] it "totally independent of all dogma, all credo, all Church organization. . . . the true subterranean source of religious energy which . . . has been collected, canalized and dried  up by the Churches to the extent that one could say that it is inside the Churches."" <ref>Romain Rolland quoted in Parsons, William B. ''The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism.'' Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999.p. 9. </ref>
 
== Works ==
Wikipedia maintains a bibliographic list of Romain's works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romain_Rolland#Bibliography


"According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the first place." <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>


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Romain Rolland (29 January 1866 – 30 December 1944) was a French dramatist, novelist, essayist, art historian and mystic. For more, see the Wikipedia entry.

Notes

  • A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. [1]
  • Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. [2]
  • "According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the first place." [3]
  • "At various points in the Appendix, Rolland makes the provocative suggestion that the psychoanalytic denigration of mystical experience stems from an abnormally extroverted tendency among psychoanalysts themselves."[4]
  • Rolland accuses psychoanalysis of having unconscious 'prejudice' that prevents them from seen the truths of mystical experience.
  • Defends the notion of mystical experience against charges that it is an infantile, regressive state.
  • Accuses Freud's rejection of oceanic experiences and religion as shallow and normative
  • Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science
  • Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding Connection Experience[5]

Mysticism

In a letter to Freud dated December 5, 1927, Rolland defines mysticism as "the basic experiential matrix that gave rise to scripture, dogma, religious institutions, and theologies."[6] He states the Oceanic Feeling it "totally independent of all dogma, all credo, all Church organization. . . . the true subterranean source of religious energy which . . . has been collected, canalized and dried up by the Churches to the extent that one could say that it is inside the Churches."" [7]

Works

Wikipedia maintains a bibliographic list of Romain's works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romain_Rolland#Bibliography


Footnotes

  1. Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.
  2. Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.
  3. Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,
  4. Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,
  5. Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.
  6. Parsons, William B. The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism. Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999. p. 9. https://amzn.to/2Tq1qsl.
  7. Romain Rolland quoted in Parsons, William B. The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism. Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999.p. 9.


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