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	Dossey (2012) provides the example of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frida_Kahlo Frida Kahlo], an artist who was clearly trance channeling her art work.		Dossey (2012) provides the example of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frida_Kahlo Frida Kahlo], an artist who was clearly trance channeling her art work.

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	Trance channeling seems to have been used by the elites in the past century to scare people away from channeling and spirituality in general. After the idea of the desirability of control has been indoctrinated in all social classes, it is easy to use the idea of total loss of control to scare people away.		Trance channeling seems to have been used by the elites in the past century to scare people away from channeling and spirituality in general. After the idea of the desirability of control has been indoctrinated in all social classes, it is easy to use the idea of total loss of control to scare people away.

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			Dossey (2012) provides the example of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frida_Kahlo Frida Kahlo], an artist who was clearly trance channeling her art work.

			<blockquote class="quotation">On the days when I am to paint I am always roused very early — generally between five and six in the morning—by three loud knocks at my bed. I open my eyes and see my bedroom brightly illuminated, and immediately understand that I have to stand up and work. I dress myself in the beautiful iridescent light, and wait a few moments, sitting in my armchair, until the feeling comes that I have to work. It never delays. All at once I stand up and walk to the picture. When about two steps before it I feel a strange sensation, and probably fall asleep at the same moment. I know, later on, that I must have slept because I notice that my fingers are covered with different colors, and I do not remember at all to have used them.<ref>Dossey, Larry. "The Brain as Filter: On Removing the Stuffing from the Keyhole." Explore: The Journal of Science and Healing 8 6 (2012): 318.</ref>
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	~~Trance channeling is prone to translation problems (as stated in the main text), which could be divided into several problems.~~

	- Problem of interpretation -> Because the PU is temporarily inhabited by a "foreign" consciousness, the information may be transmitted through a framework and understanding which is radically different from our own cultures. This problem occurs with "normal" channeling as well, but is less pervasive, since at least the framework (language, thinking stereotypes, etc.) is bound to be "earthly". For a rundown on potential problems of interpretation, see The Book of Magic Vol.I

			Trance channeling seems to have been used by the elites in the past century to scare people away from channeling and spirituality in general. After the idea of the desirability of control has been indoctrinated in all social classes, it is easy to use the idea of total loss of control to scare people away.

	- ~~Problem of integrating the information~~ -~~> Since the bodily ego must depart in order for trance channeling to occur,~~ this ~~automatically means the body is unable to "normaly" contain a sufficient amount~~ of ~~consciousness for normal/conscious~~ channeling. ~~Less consciousness in the body leads to less understanding~~, ~~less insight. Hence~~ the ~~information presented must be interpreted and associated within normal consciousness from all parties analyzing the information. Therefore~~, the ~~already difficult task~~ of ~~integrating~~ the ~~information recieved through conscious channeling, is via~~ trance ~~channeling even more troublesome~~.		It is utterly strange, that a large amount of people confronted channeling - at first at least - via this peculiar form of channeling. This form of channeling is a lot more seldom than any other form, yet it has been propagated the most, with crippling effects towards the curiosity of many spiritual seekers. (Of course there were those who did not buy the control stuff and went ahead to trance-channel anyway.)

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	~~== Possible Benefits ==~~


	~~- egoic bleeding diminished.~~
	~~- "purer" message (alrdy in maintext)~~
	~~- less risk of egoic collaps/explosion.~~

	[[User:Aim\|Aim]] ([[User talk:Aim\|talk]]) 21:02, 7 ~~December 2017~~ (UTC)
	~~== Further Reading ==~~
	~~Book of Magic Vol.I~~

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	- less risk of egoic collaps/explosion.		- less risk of egoic collaps/explosion.

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	== Further Reading ==		== Further Reading ==
	Book of Magic Vol.I		Book of Magic Vol.I

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	Book of Magic Vol.I		Book of Magic Vol.I--[[User:Aim\|Aim]] ([[User talk:Aim\|talk]]) 21:17, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

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Trance channeling is prone to translation problems (as stated in the main text), which could be divided into several problems.

- Problem of interpretation -> Because the PU is temporarily inhabited by a "foreign" consciousness, the information may be transmitted through a framework and understanding which is radically different from our own cultures. This problem occurs with "normal" channeling as well, but is less pervasive, since at least the framework (language, thinking stereotypes, etc.) is bound to be "earthly". For a rundown on potential problems of interpretation, see The Book of Magic Vol.I

- Problem of integrating the information -> Since the bodily ego must depart in order for trance channeling to occur, this automatically means the body is unable to "normaly" contain a sufficient amount of consciousness for normal/conscious channeling. Less consciousness in the body leads to less understanding, less insight. Hence the information presented must be interpreted and associated within normal consciousness from all parties analyzing the information. Therefore, the already difficult task of integrating the information recieved through conscious channeling, is via trance channeling even more troublesome.

== Possible Benefits ==

- egoic bleeding diminished.
- "purer" message (alrdy in maintext)
- less risk of egoic collaps/explosion.

== Further Reading ==
Book of Magic Vol.I

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	== Further Reading ==		== Further Reading ==
	Book of Magic Vol.I~~--[[User:Aim\|Aim]] ([[User talk:Aim\|talk]]) 21:17, 10 June 2017 (UTC)~~		Book of Magic Vol.I