Romain Rolland - Revision history

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	* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science		* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science
	*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>		*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>

			== Mysticism ==
			In a letter to Freud dated December 5, 1927, Rolland defines mysticism as "the basic experiential matrix that gave rise to scripture, dogma, religious institutions, and theologies."<ref>Parsons, William B. ''The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism.'' Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999. p. 9. <nowiki>https://amzn.to/2Tq1qsl</nowiki>.</ref> He states the [[Oceanic Feeling]] it "totally independent of all dogma, all credo, all Church organization. . . . the true subterranean source of religious energy which . . . has been collected, canalized and dried up by the Churches to the extent that one could say that it is inside the Churches."" <ref>Romain Rolland quoted in Parsons, William B. ''The Enigma of the Oceanic Feeling: Revisioning the Psychoanalytic Theory of Mysticism.'' Cambridge, MA: Oxford University Press, 1999.p. 9. </ref>

	== Works ==		== Works ==
	Wikipedia maintains a bibliographic list of Romain's works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romain_Rolland#Bibliography~~<nowiki/>~~		Wikipedia maintains a bibliographic list of Romain's works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romain_Rolland#Bibliography

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	* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science		* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science
	*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>		*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>
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	* Accuses Freud's rejection of oceanic experiences and religion as shallow and normative		* Accuses Freud's rejection of oceanic experiences and religion as shallow and normative
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			*Takes a "adaptive/transformative" approach to understanding [[Connection Experience]]<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. </ref>
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	==Notes==		==Notes==

	A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>		* A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
			* Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>
	Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>		* "According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the ﬁrst place." <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>
			* "At various points in the Appendix, Rolland makes the provocative suggestion that the psychoanalytic denigration of mystical experience stems from an abnormally extroverted tendency among psychoanalysts themselves."<ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>
	"According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the ﬁrst place." <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>		* Rolland accuses psychoanalysis of having unconscious 'prejudice' that prevents them from seen the truths of mystical experience.
			* Defends the notion of mystical experience against charges that it is an infantile, regressive state.
			* Accuses Freud's rejection of oceanic experiences and religion as shallow and normative
			* Felt a Yogic "science of mind was superior to Freud's psychoanalytic science
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==Notes==

A critic of psychoanalysis's superficial conception of mind. Suggested that the discipline had to correct and deepen their conception by taking into account mystical experiences, both East and West. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>

Call for a new "science of mind" root in ancient Indian spiritual systems (yoga). Such a science would incorporate the valuable aspect of modern psychology (psychoanalysis) without succumbing to reductionist frameworks. <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93.</ref>

"According to Rolland, psychoanalysts have tended to ‘depreciate’ the mystical experiences of saints because the psychoanalysts themselves lack the ‘inner sense’ necessary to have mystical experiences in the ﬁrst place." <ref>Maharaj, Ayon. “The Challenge of the Oceanic Feeling: Romain Rolland’s Mystical Critique of Psychoanalysis and His Call for a ‘New Science of the Mind’.” History of European Ideas 43, no. 5 (July 2017): 474–93. p. 478,</ref>

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